Apr. 22, Interview - Problems with voting machines concern Marybeth Kuznick and Richard King with VotePA, as more than ten different voting machines being used in Pennsylvania. Election Unspun's Dori Smith spoke with them about touch screen machines used in Montgomery County, a suburb of Philadelphia and Allegheny county, Pittsburgh's home. They spoke about the lack of a paper trail in Pennsylvania voting machines.

Dori Smith:
Marybeth Kuznik, I know as Executive Director of VotePA, you have been advocating for paper ballot legislation. At this point how many Pennsylvania voters will be using touch screen voting machines?

Marybeth Kuznik:
In Pennsylvania right now we have 51 of our most populous counties voting on Direct Record Electronic or DRE machines that do not produce a voter verified paper ballot. So 7 million Pennsylvania voters going to the polls have no way of being certain that their votes are being counted accurately. When there's no voter verified paper ballot a recount really becomes a reprint.

Dori Smith:
Your group has specific concerns about the Sequoia AVC Advantage touch-screen machines. They are in use in Montgomery County PA but they are also under investigation in New Jersey right now right?

Marybeth Kuznik:
Yes. The situation in New Jersey was very alarming. The number of votes cast did not match the number of voters. New Jersey officials are looking into this problem with the Sequoia machines, however, we would like to see our Pennsylvania officials look into this problem as well. The Common Cause report showed that Pennsylvania is one of the highest risk states to have election problems because we have so many different systems in use and our public officials have been very resistant to passing legislation.

Dori Smith:
Marybeth Kuznik in Westmoreland County PA. Richard King you are in a different part of the state, you said your concern is with the IVotronic made by ES&S right?

Richard King:
You should be able to verify bit by bit is exactly what's certified but they can't assure us of anything. The County and the State assured us that the software was fine and that they would be able to confirm that the software had not been altered and they don't check the software.

The Pennsylvania legislature rejected allowing a verifiable paper trail, they said it was unconstitutional. They claimed it would violate voter privacy rights.

The Pennsylvania Secretary of State has the authority to check 2 percent of votes cast.